more feedsVegas' Big Dig
Our good Mayor is a little miffed that ThePlaza isn't going to be imploded. You see, he envisioned a gently-arching pedestrian bridge (full of kiosks, vendors and such) as an extension of
So, the little wheels in Goodman's head started to squeak and groan and an idea popped out. We'll just tunnel under The Plaza and the RR tracks and install an underground tunnel-mall (complete with restaurants, pubs and shops).
OK, now I know what most of you are thinking - sounds like a nice place for the homeless and muggers to hang out. Well, not exactly, if done right, this could be a feasible plan.
I lived in
So to all you naysayers that responded to the L V Sun's article (talking about mugging and urine stench), take a look at this photo. It's not unsafe (unless the whole thing collapses) although it does sound very expensive. A better bet might be to reconfigure the Plaza's floor plan and create backdoor leading to a bridge over the tracks. This would be a win/win forThe Plaza as all the foot traffic going to and from
Can't wait to hear your thoughts...
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Surely Plaza would have to be paid for anything that passes under/over/through their land? Tamares is surely talking to the Mayor/City. Passing through Plaza directly must be the best option for Tamares.
They should aim to get as much money out of this as they can; to help pay for those renovations.
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I commented on the article and posted a link to a similar picture. The underground systems in Toronto and Houston would both serve as great examples of what can be done. Those other people posting derisive comments have no idea what they are talking about.
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The tunnel would be a cool idea....but then the problem of money comes into play again. If Tamares is willing to spend only 20 mil to revamp the Plaza itself, where will the cash come from to build something so extravagant? Your idea of an above-ground bridge that forces foot traffic through the casino is more likely and profitable for Tamares. One thing is for certain--there won't be any public funds available to be tapped for the project!
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I don't think Tamares would pay a nickel to build something that bypasses their casino diverting foot traffic under the Plaza. The money would need to come from a private investor. Maybe some mall experts like Triple Five.
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I think it's a great idea to start building below ground. Our city has hot hot summers and crazy wind storms.
Anyone wonder about the potential problems, like building underground in a state with increased seismic activity. I also wouldn't want to be the tourist underground when a flash flood runs through downtown.
-Pessemist
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I live here in Houston, Texas and the Tunnels are wonderful place for anyone who works downtown. But an importaint thing to note is they don't fill up with bums because they are closed at around 7pm and are not open on weekends. Basically, if there is not a lot of people then they are not open. I would think this would also have to be done here...even though it's vegas. I don't see a lot of people hanging out downtown around 4am like they do on the strip.
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I lived in Houston for several years a while back, and despite being very close to sea level and being in an area with a sizable amount of yearly rainfall I only remember the tunnel system to be flooded once. That was back in 2001 when Tropical Storm Allison dumped as much as 35 inches of rain in the course of two days in the metro Houston area. Houston's tunnel system was created with flooding in mind and has the ability to pump any floodwaters out, I'm pretty sure if it can work their then they'll get it to work in Vegas.
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Was just in Singapore where the weather is hot and humid. There are underground connections (with shops and restaurants) everyplace. You can walk in air-conditioned comfort underground just about everyplace. Check out the SunTec City Mall there to see how they did it right.
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I live in Boston and using the term Big Dig to describe ANYTHING is never a good idea. It conjures up images of billions of wasted tax dollars, years of horrifying traffic jams and ocean water leaking into brand-new tunnels. Just saying.
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Used to live in Montreal for 4 years, the harsh winter there required shopping malls to be smart and build underground tunnels to connect with each other. Some malls even have multi-level underground shops offering as well. I think this is going to be a very good idea.
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Its a good idea, but I doubt there will be enough foot traffic to justify the construction. The crowd will disperse after a Fremont show. They will go to a nearby casino and NOT thru a casino to go to another casino. They are not that gulible.
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aaahhh...but it will be a brand new, high-class casino, and if the shops and pubs (underground) are cool enough, "Vegas Underground" might be a draw in and of itself.
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I belive it should be called the Underground I think the name would draw courious people to the area.
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Agreed, The Underground or Vegas Underground would be my top two choices.
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The Avenue Shoppes at Bally's are not underground. There is a street level exit to Flamingo next to Sbarro's restaurant and the monorail exit is also ground level.
The arcade on the Strip near MGM is underground.
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I stand corrected.
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